Jack Perry On The CM Punk Incident: ‘It Wasn’t The Nicest Of Times, For Most Of That Time’

Jack Perry recently spoke on Up Close with Renee Paquette about his personal and professional evolution over the last two years. Perry addressed the period following his backstage altercation with CM Punk at All In 2023, describing how the fallout from that incident forced him to change his mindset regarding his wrestling career.

Finding Growth Through Adversity

Perry admitted that the time following the Wembley Stadium incident was difficult, but ultimately necessary for his development. He noted that the experience liberated him from the pressure of trying to please everyone.

“I feel like I’ve grown a lot from it, but I feel like the growth came from a lot of it sounds dramatic to say pain, but it wasn’t the nicest of times, for most of that time,” Perry said. “It really freed me in a lot of ways. It’s kind of like before all that feels like another lifetime at this point, and I think back to how I felt before that, and a big thing I had was like, it sounds silly, I just wanted everyone to like me.”

The Pressure To Be Perfect

Before his suspension and character change, Perry felt an intense burden to succeed as a performer. He explained that wanting to micromanage his career and maintain a perfect image made the public criticism even harder to handle.

“I was new to being on TV. This was my dream job since I was a little kid, and I wanted to do it perfectly, and I wanted everyone to like me, and it’s not something I worry about so much in my real life, but this was different,” Perry said. “I wanted to micromanage it and make it perfect. So then when I would come up short of that, it was very disappointing, and coming up short of anything sucks, but doing it in such a public way, and then there are a million people telling you you’re a piece of s**t or whatever, it’s hard.”

A New Perspective

The former FTW Champion claimed that he eventually reached a breaking point where he stopped caring about external validation. This realization allowed him to focus on what he wanted to achieve in the industry rather than what others expected of him.

“Through all that, I finally realised there are some people that are never gonna like me no matter what I do, and in a way that was really freeing because then I was like I don’t have to worry about that anymore, what do I wanna do?”

Perry returned to AEW programming at All Out in September 2025 following a nine-month absence. Upon his return, he attacked The Young Bucks and reunited with his former partner Luchasaurus, effectively reforming Jurassic Express. The duo has since re-entered the tag team division, targeting the teams that capitalized on their time apart.

If you use any portion of the quotes from this article please credit Up Close with Renee Paquette with a h/t to WrestlingNews.co for the transcription. 

Andrew Ravens
Andrew Ravens
Andrew Ravens is a reporter for WrestlingNews.co, where he covers the latest happenings in the world of professional wrestling. Based in Tulsa, Oklahoma, his main focus is reporting on day-to-day wrestling news, with a special emphasis on covering WWE and AEW. Having covered the industry since 2013, Andrew has developed an extensive knowledge of pro wrestling. His work involves more than just standard news updates; he also serves as a beat writer, providing in-depth and ongoing coverage of wrestling companies and its storylines. His skill set includes providing detailed play-by-play coverage for major events, ensuring fans who can't watch live still get a feel for the action. He also handles transcription, accurately converting interviews and media scrums for readers. As a dedicated reporter, Andrew frequently attends major wrestling events to cover them live, including WWE's Monday Night Raw and SmackDown, as well as AEW Dynamite. You can get in touch with Andrew for news tips or correspondence by emailing him at ravenstarmedia21@gmail.com.

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