Colt Cabana recently appeared on Busted Open with Doug Mortman and Dave LaGreca to talk about various topics. During the interview, Cabana was asked about his release from WWE. He was with the company from 2007 - 2009. “It’s the best thing that ever happened to my career,” Cabana said. He said that it was so bad that it kind of charged him up and made his life as well as his career great right now. Cabana added that he is so happy in hindsight because while it was a bad thing for him at the time, it was the best thing that could have ever happened to him because he loves what he is doing right.
Mortman and LaGreca asked him about his ‘Art of Wrestling’ podcast episode with CM Punk in November of 2014. This episode led to WWE Doctor Chris Amann filing a Libel/Slander lawsuit against Phil “CM Punk” Brooks and Cabana due to comments Punk made during the podcast.
Cabana said that his podcast is about struggles in life not about character development or storylines. Cabana stated that the Punk interview had a lot to do with struggles at the time with his career, but the weird thing was that the episode shut down their servers, so it put him a step back because of it. He added that he had to have everyone re-subscribe and some people didn’t, so it really didn’t help grow his audience. “In terms of heat and whatnot…I don’t know backlash, there’s still an ongoing thing in the court system so I can’t really talk too much about that,” Cabana said.
The last we heard was that there was a trial call date set for May 21, 2018, so it will be a long time before this case is settled.
Back in September, MMA insider Front Row Brian reported that Cabana and Punk’s friendship was over. Brian reported at the time that Punk went nuts after he learned that Cabana attended a Monday Night Raw show and went backstage. Apparently, Cabana took photos and Punk was not happy about that and Punk apparently believes that Cabana being backstage at Raw hurts his defense against WWE physician Dr. Chris Amann.
When asked about his current relationship with Punk, “I would just say don’t believe what you read on the internet,” Cabana said.
Here are quotes from the show:
On comedy in wrestling:“I do believe that it works in places. The genre of pro-wrestling should kind of be a ‘goodie vs a baddie’ and these storylines, and then you need to pepper in…the whole basis of wrestling is that idea and that’s why they have different things just to spice up an even, and that’s why they would have a ‘little person’ match or a women’s match or even back in the day that’s what a tag team was, to help spice it up. That’s what comedy is, it’s not meant to take over the whole genre of pro-wrestling, it’s just meant to be a little thing here and there to help spice it up.”
On being and independent wrestler trying to make it to the WWE: “Well, when you said I had a ‘run’ with the WWE, I would more call it a ‘slow jog’ maybe or a ‘brisk walk’ [laughs]I don’t know about a run. I’ve always championed the independent scene. Right before my goal was to get signed with the WWE, I guess, I had done 8 years and I travelled the world and I fell in love with that scene. I never really thought I’d be in the WWE, when I first started wrestling in 1999, when I first started getting decent at wrestling in around 2001, wrestlers that they would want were guys like Mark Jindrak or Sean O’Haire, they just looked like guys that I would never look like. To me, my trajectory was always to be an independent wrestler forever, hopefully I’ll make enough money to do this for life. So I kind of always assumed I would be an independent wrestler so I always championed the scene. Obviously when I came back on the scene in 2009, it was my goal to be able to make a living and to almost show the WWE that they missed out on something in myself.”
On how the WWE views independent wrestlers:“They’re always a little late to the party, I would say. I remember them telling me that podcasts were stupid and there was no money in it…independent wrestling when I was there was taboo word. I was shunned for the way that I came up in the scene, like there was any other option, like I could go to some territory and start, that was the only option for guys like me. It’s nice that they’ve turned around. It’s cool that guys have an opportunity to go on their shows and then come back to the independents. It’s a nice thing where a guy like Tony Neese or [Ariya] Daivari can be on such a huge platform, and then be able to go to the local shows and maybe help bring in some people the shows and help build the independent scene. That’s what it’s always been based off, back in the day it was bringing in guys like Tito Santana and Greg ‘The Hammer’ Valentine because they had all this TV power, and you tried to build a little scene. Well, now it’s kind of cool that the scene is based off independent stars now and not the guys who had a run 30 years ago.
On his WWE run coming to an end: “It’s the best thing that ever happened to my career, it was so bad that it kind of charged me up and made me…my life and career is so great right now, it’s unbelievable. I’m so happy that…hindsight…at the time it was the worst, looking back at it, it was the best thing that could have ever happened to me…You know if I had more time I could have gone on to do ‘whatever’ also the other way, but if what happened didn’t happen…I love what I’m doing right now so I’m so glad that what happened, happened so that I could be where I am right now.
On reflecting on the ‘Art of Wrestling’ podcast episode w/ CM Punk:“My [podcast]is more about the struggles. I like the idea of ‘our struggles, our internal struggles’ as opposed to character development or storylines or whatnot. Obviously, the Punk one had a lot to do with struggles at the time with his career. The weird thing was, it shut down our servers…It kind of took me a step back…I had to work with a new team to put my infrastructure together…I had to have everyone re-subscribe and some people didn’t, so it really didn’t help me, it almost hindered me a little bit. In terms of heat and whatnot…I don’t know backlash, there’s still an on-going thing in the court system so I can’t really talk too much about that.
On his relationship with CM Punk: “I would just say don’t believe what you read on the internet.”
Busted Open with Doug Mortman and Dave LaGreca can be heard Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday from 2p-4p Eastern Time only on SiriusXM Rush Channel 93 and if you’d like to hear the full interview it can be found online at SiriusXM.com/OnDemand or on your phone on the SiriusXM App.
You can listen to a clip from the interview with Cabana at the following link: bit.ly/2eURYVe