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Gail Kim on her “WWE is racist” comment, Lita on her father passing away, Christy Hemme on her mom’s alcoholism and more from Lilian Garcia’s podcast

Part two of Lilian Garcia’s interview with Lita (Amy Dumas), Christy Hemme and Gail Kim has been posted. You can watch the full interview below and scroll down for the transcribed highlights.

Some key moments from the interview in addition to the full episode transcription:

  • Gail Kim talks about a past comment “WWE Is Racist” and how she feels today about her experience during her time with WWE.
  • Amy (Lita) on her relationship with since passed father
  • Christy Hemme talks about her mom and alcoholism
  • Gail talks about being a producer
  • Gail talks about why her husband, Robert Irvine is NOT helping with Kayfabe

KAYFABE : Part 2: Alcoholism, Estranged Fathers, Rejection and Determination!

Amy (Lita): Dealing with her father passing away and their relationship

Amy “Lita” Dumas (guest):

He has since passed away. So, if I’m speaking honestly now, I thought about reaching out and I was just going to write him a short letter and say, “It’s okay. I love you and I forgive you.” And that was really just for peace for him. I can only imagine how scary it is to know that you’re dying. But then I felt like he’s always been so defensive about him being my dad, that he’s never really taken any responsibility for not having a connection with me. And so, I didn’t want to invite more turmoil at that stage and have him be like, I apologize for what? Or forgiving me for what I always did the best I could. So, I don’t know what your problem is. And so I was like, you know what? I’m just going to let it lie and I know that I’m at peace because when we stopped, when I hadn’t talked to him, I already had to imagine, is this okay if this is the last time you ever talked to him? Because you never know when it will be.

Alcoholism: Christy’s mom

Christy Hemme (guest):

My whole life. Yeah. And she went in bouts of not drinking and then drinking again. And I just was always the… I always knew what was happening. I always knew when she was drunk. I used to hide the keys. I used to take care of my brother and my sister and I would just protect the family. I’d call my dad and let him know what he’s coming home to. I just was caretaker and trying to keep everything good and then I’d talk to her and I’d talk to her about life. Things that young kids should not be talking to their parent about. But just trying to help.

Gail talks about a past comment re: WWE is racist

Gail Kim (guest):

I said they’re racist and then I made… I was clear on my statement. Then this writer or was really a fan, just writing his opinion about it. He’s like, “Gail Kim backtracked on her statement.” But I was being more… clarifying it. So, I got upset that he said I backtracked and I wrote, “wrong.” That’s all I said, “wrong” and all the fans who read it completely backed me. And that’s why they pulled down the article. It wasn’t because… ’cause they actually said they didn’t want to pull it down. They’re like, “We would be happy for you to write a piece to oppose it.” I’m like, I’m not writing a piece for you to help your website. Basically, the fans read everything, and they backed me and that’s why they took it down…

…Gail expands

I don’t understand what I’m supposed to do here because I do everything you guys ask me to do. And I’m like, I got to the point where I’m like, am I too Asian? I was literally highlighting my hair near the end to become more white. I didn’t know what to do at that point. That’s why I left. Because I’m like, I know I have more to give to this business and you hired me back for a reason. I did do something, and you brought me back for a reason. So, I just felt really, I don’t know, suppressed. I felt very suppressed…

…How Gail feels today about her experience with WWE

Gail Kim (guest):

Honestly, now in hindsight, of course I tried to look at the positives. I always tell everyone like, cause the fans will always be like, Oh my God, I hate the way that they used you. I hear that all the time and my answer to them all the time as well, if they didn’t do that, I would never have had the career I had at TNA Impact and I would never have had done all those things and I’m so satisfied with my career and that’s because of the road I’ve taken. And what’s happened. I am very vocal about things that I truly believe in but I would never do anything… Like I love. That’s my passion, my love. I’ve been part of this business for close to 20 years.

Gail on her husband, Robert Irvine

Gail Kim (guest):

Another thing, I have to say it because I’m going to get it off my chest. Everyone’s like, oh she’s married to Robert Irvine. I Googled him and he’s worth whatever million. I’m like, I pay my own bills and I’ve always been independent my whole life. Yes, of course, he’s more successful and he takes care of the home and everything like that. But I’ve worked my whole life and I want to continue to be able to reach my own goals in my life on my own and with these girls and [crosstalk 00:17:47] Yeah, this is not his. I think people just assume.

Gail’s relationship with her father & proving Herself

Gail Kim (guest):

Oh, I was the son he never had. My sister even says, “Oh, you are the favorite. You are the favorite.” All the childhood issues that she had, she’ll be like, “Remember this?” And “He used to … ” She used to say he treated me well but not her. And I’m like, “I don’t remember that.” Like I literally have blocked out everything from my childhood. It’s so weird. I have a lot of blockage maybe, I don’t know. So that’s maybe where my hard exterior comes from and I’m just always trying to prove myself or something. I think that’s what it was.

Becoming a Producer

Gail Kim (guest):

Maybe, yeah. Like I said, as soon as I became a producer, it’s like the fight started all over. I felt like I went down to the bottom again and trying to prove myself, prove myself, prove myself, even though I know I have the respect of my coworkers, I’m just always trying to be perfect again.

Please credit “Chasing Glory with Lilian Garcia” for the transcription.






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