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Paul Heyman says Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns both want to be the greatest of all time



Paul Heyman appeared on Mark Andrews' "My Love Letter To Wrestling" podcast ahead of WrestleMania to discuss the upcoming Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns matchup, and what he looks for when he invests in talent.

Paul Heyman talking about Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar both wanting to be the undisputed best:

"These are alpha males of which you're talking. They are both D-1 athletes. They are both at the highest peak of WWE. They are both more than one sport champions," Paul said.

"So it's a situation where there's a lot of alpha males that are jockeying for position. No matter how you view this industry, only one person can truly be the top star."

"You know, there have been situations, Austin and The Rock, Hogan and the Macho Man, where there's a 1 and a 1A, but there is still clearly a 1. If you think that either Brock Lesnar or Roman Reigns are satisfied with being 1A, you're not taking a full assessment of the ambition of the athlete that you're assessing."

On whether he thinks Reigns or Lesnar see themselves as being one of the best of all time:

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"I don't think either Roman Reigns or Brock Lesnar are satisfied with being one of the greatest of all time. I think the only title or moniker that Roman Reigns or Brock Lesnar are satisfied with will be greatest of all time, undisputed greatest of all time, with no one else even in the top five and everyone else jockeying for six through ten."

"These are remarkably ambitious, driven performers and athletes who have absolutely no desire to go down in history as Hulk Hogan, and Macho, and Austin, and Rock. No, they want to be head and shoulders above everyone else."

On why people are interested in the Reigns vs Lesnar match:

"I've always thought that the greatest box office is driven by whether, and whether it's sports entertainment, wrestling, UFC, MMA, Bellator, football or, you know, here in the States, we properly call it soccer, Rugby is all driven by the same thing," Heyman said.

"Who are these two people? Why are they fighting? And why should I care enough to pay to see it, buy a ticket, or get a streaming service that carries their fight?”

On what Heyman looks for when he invests himself in a talent:

"An unrepentant, uninhibited, unapologetic drive to be the best has ever done it on any platform and a progression into the future so that even future superstars 20 years from now understand that the measuring stick applies to the person that I'm working with.”

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